Smart Electric Retrofit
Dear Shai;
We have developed a universal true plug-in electric drive solution that works in conjunction with gasoline driven cars. The system is a smart electric retrofit. It consists of two in-wheel electric engines (650HP), a novel battery storage tank with energy to drive 180 – 250km per electric charge from the grid, and proprietary control software that is a proprietary operating systems based on Linux.
The value proposition of the smart electric retrofit system is that you keep your existing car, you add the smart electric retrofit system (less then 2 hours installation time) and you can choose to either drive on expensive gasoline mode OR instead cheap and clean energy! This solution enables enormous cost savings, especially for fleet owners such as delivery trucks, taxis, and at the same time reducing CO2 pollution. There are 700 million cars on the street today. This system allows us to “infiltrate” the market by “riding” alongside with existing cars.
The in-wheel electric drive is light weight with high power. The energy storage tank is low cost and light-weight and can easily be exchanged or recharged in under 20 min. The Storage Technology is specifically designed for the application transportation. This electric drive system is the foundation for a new blossoming electron economy and will experience parallel development as the hard disk storage industry (Moor’s law). This system is synergetic to the great PBP business model, as existing combustion engine cars on the road today would become green vehicles through the Smart Electric Retrofit system.
We are seeking for strategic partners that are established corporations in the electric device and transportation industry. Please contact us for further information.
CARazed is a dreamer
Ofcourse it's impossible to retrofit a car with those specs for that price. The story about the storage tank is pure fantasy. It's typical that this posting doesn't refer to a website that explains all this. Dream on CARazed!
Dreams become reality!!!
As EV enthusiast we share the same vision: Turing Transportation Green - everyone, everywhere! Trust me, we have charged ourselves with an ambitious goal and we would not violate PBP's forum with fantasy.
We are happy that you are impressed and understand your pessimism if you base your opinion on common battery technology where the limitations are facts.
Our published specifications are still conservative. Our energy storage tank is a novelty and specifically designed for the application transportation. Understand that we are in our prototype development phase and do not publicly disclose our unique design elements for strategic reasons.
For serious inquiries please send a private message or use this open forum.
WOW!
How much and is it available now?
Smart Electric Retrofit Solution
Thank you for your comment. The system is estimated in small quantities to cost about $6,000 and in high volumes $2,000, which makes it competitive even for the consumer market.
We are in pre-prototype phase and the commercialization process is expected to be complete in 2009.
We will market the Energy Storage technology to the entire EV market to benefit from light weight and increase of power for longer range.
Stay tuned.
From gas to el
Hi. Do I understand this the right way...? Have You developed something that can "convert" a gasoline driven car into an electric driven car? And at a cost at $2000-$6000? :-)
Bi-Drive system gas and el
Hello Smiley, I appreciate your question.
The first answer is no, we don't "convert". We are developing a universal “plug-in” all-electric drive system that seamlessly integrates with existing gas-driven vehicles to deliver a Bi-Drive solution. Bi-Drive allows vehicles with an internal combustion engine (ICE) to leverage the benefits of an electric drive system while maintaining the integrity of the vehicle’s existing engine. By adding our patented SER bi-drive system a conventional combustion engine vehicle becomes a “green” vehicle when driven on electric power. We ride "alongside" so to say.
The second answer is Yes. The retail price is targeted at $6,000 initially for the entire SER system: including two electric motors, storage tank and control computer with LCD display on the dashboard (the only visible part of the retrofit solution).
Bi Drive system? Weight?
Sounds like a good idea for slyly "infiltrating" the current market, and good luck to you indeed!
But one of the advantages of full electric is the potential reduced weight - cars are as heavy today because internal combustion engines are inherently heavy. Reduced weight batteries, as we have seen with the move from NiCd to Li batteries, will make this difference more apparent. But adding weight to gain efficiency? Sounds like a mug's game.
But whatever. Let us know when you are ready for market, and I will buy a kit, install it, then scrap the internal combustion parts and drivetrain, and then drive lightly!
Kevin.
Lightweight System
Hi Kevin,
You are addressing a very important point. We have taken the weight issue into account. The entire system, including 2 in-wheel electric motors, the storage tank and control computer weight together less than 140 lbs. In reality, this is less weight than an extra passenger or full gas tank.
The energy storage is particularly light weight with only 40 lbs, which makes the battery exchange process much more practical. Keep in mind, we are not improving on existing battery technology that are chemical based. We are opening up a new realm of storage technology that has battery characteristics.
Walk and drive in health.
I'm curious to know what
I'm curious to know what technology your using for energy storage. It wouldn't be ultracaps by any chance? It's the only technology which I've heard of that can provide a higher energy density than li ion and potentially cost less.
well, you've certainly come
well, you've certainly come up with the holy grail: a 40lb storage device that can push a normal vehical 110-150 miles.
Tesla, who most consider cutting edge, has a battery pack weighing nearly 1000lbs and their lightweight aerodynamic car will do 200-250 miles on a charge.
GM's Volt is hoping to do 40 miles on a 400lb battery.
You can do 110-150 on a 40lb pack?
If what you have is real, Sign me up for 3-4 packs.
Oh, and don't forget us 4wd people when designing your controller.
Not credible
This deserves to be on the same shelf as the 500 mpg carburetor or the 1000 miles per tank of water ideas.
I thought this site was serious, but if posts like this one don't get vetted it's going to be a loser.
I agree with the Tesla comments above - TeslaMotors is the benchmark; they almost tell you how to buid such a car, and the original poster can't even explain what he/she is promoting? Gimme a break.
I'll admit my moderating is
I'll admit my moderating is a little on the laid back side of things but on the whole most of the threads have been on topic. The above claims do sounds a little fishy to say the least but the idea of using in wheel motors to add electric drive does sound an interesting one. I guess you could argue this has little relevance to PBP though as we already know they are targeting new car buyers not those looking to convert an existing car to electric. I'll try and keep this in mind in the future.
Plug-in Solutions
To all being 'WOW'ed or not on this thread;
As an apartment dweller with no access to outside plugs or hope of discretely running a 100' extention cord from my indoor elecrical source, all this talk of a re-chargeble pack that plugs in makes me frustrated at best. People still are not getting what PBP is proposing, easily replaced batteries that the consumer can handle every day with exchange or trade-in value equal to a core price so that all that is being paid for at each fill-up is the power consumed to charge the pack. I doubt if commuter employees at a business will be able to lug their car pack into the office and plug in at their desk while they work, or plug in for free at the gas station while on a highway trip.
If there will be a retro-fit market, the removable modular packs will be an essential element to marketability, as most used car owners are also renters, even in the USA.
Pete Aguilu - Green Fanatic!
Yes a very good point.
Yes a very good point. Unless PBP installed a charging point on my drive at home I also would not have an easy way to charge up an electric car. I can imagine that its even harder if you're in an apartment or flat and you don't have your own permanent parking space. The battery exchange idea is ideal for this.
I also think the suggestion of plugging in your car halfway through a journey isn't all that practical. Even with claims of being able to charge a battery in as little as 5 or 10 minutes I can't see people wanting to hang around that long, especially if there is somewhere you need to be. With the right engineering I don't see why the time to exchange the battery can't be reduced to as little as 2 minutes.